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Re:"Bob Dylan's Cadillac Ads Are a Gas": 4 Years, 3 Months ago  
if memory serves me well didn't bob do ads for fender in the 60s:

like this one:

and regarding biabh: Columbia promoted this album like no Dylan album before it. There were cool little stand-up Dylan’s wearing his suit and shades, holding an electric guitar and at the bottom it said, “Bob Dylan brings it all back home on Columbia Records,” and there were other ones that said “No one sings Dylan like Dylan.”

there are businessmen and there are businessmen
 
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Re:"Bob Dylan's Cadillac Ads Are a Gas": E Gunders 4 Years, 3 Months ago  
 
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Re:"Bob Dylan's Cadillac Ads Are a Gas": E Gunderson: 4 Years, 3 Months ago  
uhm..i love bob ads
i think it is great he does now being alive what they would do with his imagine when he will be dead...
at least he and us can have fun
of course he is supposed to share with me the introits .he will soon anyway...
so
always remember ...irony ...
dont you feel the fun of such ads?
bob is always ahead of his times...
relax...
look at them as a joke...
you can look at bob and laught with him ..or be pissed off...
ut bob likes the ones who have sense of humor...
on a deeper lever he is protecting his imagine to come too
bob plays with bobdylan
i think it is great...
 
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Re:"Bob Dylan's Cadillac Ads Are a Gas": E Gunders 4 Years, 3 Months ago  
This article is courtesy of moon j. and expecting rain.com. It includes some anecdotal commentary, from yours truly:


Thursday, October 25, 2007

Laura Berman

Dylan sings Cadillac's praises: Times are really a-changin'

He was booed for selling out in the 1960s. His heresy then was plugging in his guitar at the Newport folk festival.

Today, Bob Dylan -- once the musical high priest of anti-hypocrisy -- is a Detroit pitch man, selling Cadillacs. A new 30-second spot airing this week depicts him driving an Escalade across the California flats, wearing a cowboy hat, black frock coat and shades.

Watch it and ponder this unexpected nexus of fat cat car with cool cat musician. It challenges you -- you baby boomer, you Gen Y Cadillac avoider -- to take on America's greatest singing poet as Detroit's new defender.


[Too many writers, imo, forget that it was the generation just prior to the Baby Boomers - those born in the War Years (essentially, 1940 to 45) - who first got into Dylan. Not all of them, mind you. They were, roughly speaking, in their early to-mid-twenties, whereas some Boomers (born, approximately, between 1946 and 1965, inclusive) were not yet born when Bobby was turning out his first albums. The "early" Boomers [i]were[/i], as teenagers, a part of Bob's audience when "Like a Rolling Stone" broke out, in 1965. All I'm saying is that they weren't the whole show when Bob's career was taking off. Born in 1941, Dylan, ironically, was a member of what some sociologists refer to as The Silent Generation.]


"What's life without the occasional detour?" he asks, after passing a fuel tanker truck and pulling over, apparently, to project his aura.

Radio show plugs Cadillacs

Dylan, now 66, is older than plenty of Cadillac drivers. Their average age hovers between mid-40s (for the Escalade) and mid-50s for the big sedans.

A full hour of his XM satellite radio show is dedicated to Cadillac. Think Dylan growling in his Minnesota-meets-Woody Guthrie twang about everything Cadillac, from Antoine Laumet de La Mothe Cadillac and on.

"Nothing goes better with a Cadillac than a long ride with music," he purrs, before introducing obscure but authentic musicians who have serenaded the car, from Vince Taylor and the Playboys ("My baby drove up in a brand new Cadillac&quot to Buddy Johnson's ode to "A pretty girl, a Cadillac and some money."

Dylan once challenged "writers and critics/ who prophesise with your pen," cautioning, "Don't speak too soon."

At the time, he was talking about changing times and revolution. Now he's ordering a reinvention of a Cadillac mystique that's been lost for a generation. So far this year, 7 percent fewer Cadillacs have been sold than in 2006.

Entering a new phase

Since his "Like a Rolling Stone," days, he's been born-again and unborn-again, traversing waves of musical styles in the process. He's got a satellite radio show, a "multi-platform" ad campaign, and the children of those folkies who once booed him buying tickets to his concerts.

Even folk stalwarts like David Siglin, who's presided at The Ark, Ann Arbor's folk club, since 1968, aren't critical of Dylan's commercial moment.

Anti-establishment? "That's what we made him," says Siglin, pointing out that Johann Sebastian Bach had to pay his bills, too.

It's retro to complain Dylan's hawking a flashy, oversized automotive symbol of bloated excess and status.

And "don't criticize what you can't understand."

Bob Dylan is whispering in my ear about the delights of "livin' large" in a four-wheeled wonder and I'm listenin.' Just not buyin' it yet.
 
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Re:"Bob Dylan's Cadillac Ads Are a Gas": E Gunderson: 4 Years, 3 Months ago  
The Times Are A-Changin' for Musicians and Marketers
Stars Are Getting More Screen Time and May Even Overshadow Products They're Shilling
By Brian Steinberg

Published: October 29, 2007

NEW YORK (AdAge.com) -- "They'll stone you when you're riding in your car," Bob Dylan once sang, but he seems to have gotten over that fear, as he was more than willing to take a drive in a Cadillac Escalade in a new commercial -- and steal the show from the snazzy General Motors vehicle.

Bob Dylan's appearance in an Escalade ad may distract viewers from the product.

Once considered a leading counterculture figure, the enigmatic Mr. Dylan has transformed himself into an advertiser's friend, and in doing so embodies the wholesale change that's gone in the music industry's relationship to the world of brands.

Mr. Dylan's music and visage sparked buzz for commercials from Victoria's Secret and Apple's iTunes. Now he is appearing in an ad from independent shop Modernista that touts both Cadillac as well as XM Satellite Radio, where he does a music show. He even lends his rough-hewn voice for narration. But the singer is so iconic and his presence in the commercial so striking that some ad executives feel Mr. Dylan, not the products, is what consumers will recall most.

Playing along

And he's not the only one upstaging marketers' products these days. John Legend, Diana Krall and Elvis Costello got more of the onscreen spotlight in a recent series of ads for Lexus than the cars did. Jay-Z won marketing experience by being named co-brand director of Anheuser-Busch's Budweiser Select, but the product has struggled. Sheryl Crow got on board a Dell ad in 2005 -- just as a new single, "Good Is Good," was about to be released.

Madison Avenue is suffering from an Attack of the Rock Stars.

It's no secret that narrower radio playlists and the rise of iTunes have pushed record labels and music publishers toward commercials as a means of getting bands and music out to the public. Usually, tunes and celebrities are welcome as a means to entice consumers who can eagerly zap past ads with a digital video recorder. But the goals of the music men often don't coincide with a marketer's specific mission.

"Listen, it's sensitive business," said Peter Greco, senior VP-executive music producer at WPP Group's Y&R Advertising. "They are using our media dollars to gain exposure."

Mr. Dylan's appearance "definitely dwarfs the product," said Josh Rabinowitz, senior VP-director of music at WPP Group's Grey Worldwide. Even Cadillac admits Mr. Dylan can be a distraction when paired with certain products, though executives felt the Escalade was its most popular model and could hold its own. Modernista took pains to keep Mr. Dylan from overwhelming the car, avoiding scenarios in which he talked about horsepower or the car's navigation system, said David Weist, a creative director at the agency. Mr. Dylan's management told the agency that the singer didn't want his songs used, as it might be seen as self-indulgent.

Paying for exposure

His restraint, however, stands out as an exception these days.
Labels and publishers have begun to reduce the cost of using many songs in commercials as a way to gain more exposure. Performance and publishing rights for really popular songs can often run into six or seven figures. But in some cases, particularly when the tunes are new and the artists who sing them relatively unknown, costs can come down to the $40,000-$60,000 range, estimated Eric Korte, music director at the New York office of Publicis Groupe's Saatchi & Saatchi.

Labels seem more willing to deal because many ads have an online component to them, where songs can be placed for download or streaming. "I have had offers from band management to record labels to, 'Here, take this band or this particular album, put it in an ad and you can have the song for free or we will pay you,'" said Y&R's Mr. Greco.

Dave Freeman wasn't trying to be overbearing earlier this year when he offered songs from Wilco's then about-to-debut album, "Sky Blue Sky," to Crispin Porter & Bogusky for use in Volkswagen commercials. But he definitely wanted exposure for his client. The idea was not to just get a song in one or two ads, but "when one spot is done running, let's get another spot on the air that's going to run concurrently. Let's get the most mileage out of it," said Mr. Freeman, manager-creative advertising and new media at music-publisher Bug Music/Windswept. Wilco's album essentially provides the soundtrack to the Volkswagen ad campaign.

Volkswagen ads were already being shot at Crispin, recalled Bill Meadows, the agency's executive integrated producer-music and talent relations, when a preview copy of the Wilco disc made it into his hands. Executives took lyrics from various songs and used them to explain or accent the action in the commercials. In one spot, a driver grows anxious when valets come to park his VW for him, and he goes into a fighting stance. "I have no idea how this happens," go the words to the accompanying Wilco tune.

As record companies pursue their own agendas, the sound of music may grow less melodious. Such entities are "definitely in it for the exposure," said Mike Boris, senior VP-executive music producer at Interpublic Group's McCann Erickson. Musicians "are thinking about their brand." Which means they don't necessarily care about yours.
 
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Re:"Bob Dylan's Cadillac Ads Are a Gas": E Gunders 4 Years, 3 Months ago  
Bob's getting plenty of boos over at YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15PvBPGEdcE

"Coming up next: Michael Stipe for Taco Bell"

"Is this for real?!!!! Gotta be a fuckin' joke. Car advertising??!??!?!? Fuckn' Caddy? Please tell me that this is a mocumentary joke parady fake thing. If not, all my Dylan shit goes in the trash."

"Why does this ALWAYS happen with artists you respect? Grrrrrrr."

"You just flushed 45 years of credibility."

"advertising cons you, bob?
idiot liar bastard."


... etc., etc.

Bet he's enjoying the notoriety! Judas!
 
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Re:"Bob Dylan's Cadillac Ads Are a Gas": E Gunders 4 Years, 3 Months ago  
I think Bob should give up his gas guzzling buses and take a horse and wagon out on tour. Ever since he went electric, he's been selling out and using up fossil fuels. In fact, I think this whole global warming problem is his fault.

edit: (That Cadillac SUV thing looks like a pretty nice vehicle. Think I might get me one)
 
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