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Roots of Bob No. 6: Corinna & Alberta pt. 1 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
"Corrina, Corrina" ( lyrics) was recorded by Bob Dylan with a band (including Bruce Langhorne, Dick Wellstood et al.) on October 26th 1962. One take was released on "Freewheelin'", another one as a single b-side with "Mixed-Up Confusion". Two solo performances have survived: one studio outtake recorded 24.4.1962 and one live version from Gerde's Folk City 16.4.1962. A demo for Whitmark (November 1962) is not in general circulation.
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mp3s:
Gerde’s Folk City 16.4.1962
Columbia Studios 24.4.1962
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Though there were "Corrinas" already in 19th century music the original inspiration for the 20th century song family may have been a popular song published in 1918: "Has Anybody Seen My Corrine" by Roger Graham (who was.also involved in "I Ain't Got Nobody&quot and Lukie Johnson.

Vernon Dalhart, 1918 from Cylinder Preservation And Digitization Project
Wilbur Sweatman, 1918/19 from redhotjazz.com

My girl ran away last night,
I did my best to treat her right,
For no reason I can see
I was crazy 'bout her 'fore she was wild about me.

I'm so worried 'bout to cry
To think she left and never said good-bye
Heartbroken and alone
I want my baby to come home.

Has anybody seen my Corrine?
Oh, she's a dream
She is my baby doll
Just like a banfire
She set my heart on fire

I regret the day,
The day that I was born,
[?] my lovin' Corrina has gone
She has done me wrong

[...]

If anybody has seen my Corrine?
No matter where Corrina may be,
Tell my Corrina to come right back to me,
I want some lovin' sweetie dear.


Frankie Jaxon in 1927 recorded a hilarious parody called "Corrine" (revived in 1929 as "Corrine Blues" and in 1939 as "Callin' Corrine&quot. Blind Lemon Jefferson's "Corinna Blues" (1926) has a completely different melody and refers only in one verse - that looks like it was derived from the 1918 song - to that particular girl:

If you see Corrina, tell her to hurry home.
I ain't had no true love, since Corrina been gone.
I ain't had no true love, since Corrina been gone.
I ain't had no true love, since Corrina's been gone.


But the very first recording of the "Corrina" known today was "Corrine, Corrina" by Chatman & McCoy in New Orleans in November or December 1928 (Brunswick 7080, Supertone S2212, Vocalion 02701):

An mp3 is available from publicdomain4u.com

Corrina, Corrina, where you been so long?
Corrina, Corrina, where you been so long?
I ain't had no lovin', since you've been gone

Corrina, Corrina, where'd you stay last night?
Corrina, Corrina, where'd you stay last night?
Come in this mornin', sun was shinin' bright.
[etc: 6 more verses]


On December 17th the same outfit - now calling themselves the Jackson Blue Boys - recorded the song for another label and changed the girl's name to "Sweet Alberta"(Columbia 14397-D), using for the most part the same lyrics but this time including Jefferson's "tell her to hurry home" line. And in December 1930 they recycled the same melody for a song called "The Northern Starvers Are Returning Home" (Okeh 8853) so all important record labels had a chance to get a slice of the cake and the musicians managed to get paid three times for one song.

Bo Chatmon played the fiddle. He was one of the important and very active Chatmon-family from Mississippi . Some of its members later recorded as the Mississippi Sheiks . But he also had his own career as recording artist. As Bo Carter he was very busy until 1940 and specialized in "dirty" songs like "Banana In My Fruit Basket". Charlie McCoy - the brother of Joe McCoy, who was married to and recorded with Memphis Minnie - was an excellent guitar player and mandolinist who took part in many recording sessions, for example he accompanied Tommy Johnson. In the 30s he was with his brother Joe member of the Harlem Hamfats, a very popular and influential proto-Rhythm & Blues group with horns. The guitar player on this sessions was most likely Walter Vinson , singer and core member of the Mississippi Sheiks. All three were part of a circle of extremely versatile and Mississippi string band musicians. They used to perform everything from current popular songs to Blues both for black and white audiences. From the late 20s to the early 40s they were among the African American artists recorded most often.

There are theories circulating that "Corinna" might be an older "Folk-Song". But that is very doubtful. The history of this song most likely only began with its first recording and I know of no evidence that it existed before that date. All later versions surely derive from this original performance. "Stylistic lineages in this song tend to be fairly transparent, suggesting that transmission occurred not orally, but through the recorded medium" (Todd Harvey, p. 21) Bo Chatmon was an excellent songwriter who knew a lot of music and he was well-versed in Blues, string-band music as well as current and older popular song traditions. I don't see any reason to deny his abilities and creativity as the writer of "Corrine" by calling this song a "traditional".

There is a good chance that he in fact might have been inspired either by the original "Has Anybody Seen Corrine" or by Blind Lemon Jefferson's "Corinne Blues". Jefferson was very popular at that time and his recordings were well known. Most likely Chatman simply took that "Corinna" verse, rewrote it and built a new song with a different melody around that topic. That's exactly the way Blues-songwriters used to work. The rest of the lyrics look like a pastiche of popular songs and Blues from the 10s and 20s. Songs like "I Ain't Got Nobody", "Nobody's Blues But Mine", "What's The Matter Now" - all recorded for example by Bessie Smith in 1925 and 1926, or "Oh What A Pal Was Mary" - a 1919 Pop hit - may have been the source of some ideas and floating lines.

Among the first and most important covers was one by Tampa Red & Georgia Tom, recorded in December 1929 ("Corrine, Corrina", Vocalion 1450). This must have sold very well as they followed it up four month later in April 1930 with "Corinne Corrina No 2" (Vocalion 1496) including a set of new verses. From then on this song grew to very popular and crossed all race and genre barriers. There have been a great number of of covers and adaptions, one list I saw includes ca. 30 until 1945 and many more since then.

The Mississippi Sheiks (Walter Vinson and Lonnie Chatman) kept her in the family and recorded the song as "Alberta" in 1930. Leroy Carr & Scrapper Blackwell adapted "Corrina" in 1934 as "Hold Them Puppies" . And of course Big Joe Turner's fine version with Art Tatum on piano (1941, revived in 1956) should be mentioned. Country music artists like Cliff Bruner (1937) and Bob Wills (1940) have recorded it too as have Jazz bands like those of Red Nichols (1930), Cab Calloway (1931), Wingy Manone (1939) or Cajun singers like Leo Sileau (1935) and Lawrence Walker (1940). In 1961 even Ray "Tell Laura I Love Her" Peterson had a hit with that song

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recordings:
one zip folder incl 9 Corrinas and her sisters (Blind Lemon Jefferson, Jackson Blue Boys, Tampa Red, Mississippi Sheiks, Leroy Carr, Cliff Bruner, Bob Wills, Big Joe Turner)
on redhotjazz: Frankie Jaxon (1929 & 1939 versions), Red Nichols , Wingy Manone
versions by Ray Peterson are available on You Tube: original recording & TV 1965
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Bob Dylan's version was a rather drastic rewrite leaving not much of the song's original mood and content. "He abandons the happy-go-lucky jugband feel of many interpretations" (Trager, p. 115) and turns it into a slow, mournful Blues. Only very few original lines remain, instead he uses a variant of a verse from Robert Johnson's "Stones In My Passway"

I have a bird to whistle, and I have a bird to sing
Have a bird to whistle, and I have a bird to sing
I got a woman that I'm lovin', boy, but she don't mean a thing


The early live version from April 62 includes some more borrowings from Robert Johnson, like the "hellhound" and the "38 Special". In some way he tried to turn it into a "real" Blues á la Robert Johnson and make it different from the Pop-music versions (see Harvey, p. 22). But on the other hand he worked exactly like a Blues writer by taking one element of a song and creating a new one around it. In fact his "Corrina" is so different from the precursors that he could have copyrighted it for himself as it is more or less a new song and not a rearranged "traditional".

Interestingly his version became something like another link in the chain: Taj Mahal based his "Corrina" (on Natch'l Blues, 1968) on Bob's variant: he centers it around the Robert Johnson - lines and completely leaves the context of the original "Corrinas":
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Taj Mahal mp3s
16.1.1971
8.7.2004
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The general problem with "Corrina" and "Alberta" is that there are different songs using the same girls' names - capitalizing on the original song's popularity - and related songs using different girls' names. So there were other "Corrinas", for example Blind Boy Fuller's "Corrine What Makes You Treat Me So" (1937) or Walter Davis' "Corrine" (1939) and there were other "Albertas". Lead Belly's "Alberta" (1935) is a completely different song, his "Corrina" is called "Roberta" (1935; and Eric Clapton renamed her "Alberta" when he borrowed this song for his Unplugged concert). Jazz Gillum recorded an "Alberta Blues" in 1938, but that is basically a variant of "Big Road Blues". The "Alberta" Dylan recorded in two versions for Self Portrait in March 1970 belongs to still another song family and will be discussed in part 2.

Sources & Credits:
Todd Harvey, The Formative Dylan. Transmission And Stylistic Influences, 1961 - 1963, Lanham, Maryland & London 2001, p. 20-22.
Christopher Waterman, Race Music: Bo Chatmon, "Corrine, Corrina," And The Excluded Middle, in: Ronald Radano & Philip V. Bohlman (ed.), Music And The Racial Imagination, Chicago & London 2000, p. 167 -205, online version at utexas.edu (most extensive discussion of the song's history available at the moment)
Entries for "Corinna" in Dylan encyclopedias by Oliver Trager and Michael Gray
Robert M.W.Dixon/John Godrich/Howard Rye, Blues & Gospel Records 1890-1943. Fourth Edition, Oxford 1997
The "Corinne, Corrina" Website (includes a extensive list of recordings)

Thanks to Stew, with whom I discussed these songs about a year ago
 
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Re:Roots of Bob No. 6: Corinna & Alberta pt. 1 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
Thanks, LostChords. I really look forward to listening to these mp3's and studying your notes on one of my very favorite BD songs.
 
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Re:Roots of Bob No. 6: Corinna & Alberta pt. 1 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
http://www.utexas.edu/cofa/music/erlmannseries/corrina.htm
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As you mention, Corrina Corrina goes back into the 19th century. Some of the great lyrics, that portray lyrical details so fine as to evoke a time and an indiscretion so wonderfully.

Corrina, Corrina, Where'd ya stay last night?
Corrina, Corrina, Where'd ya stay last night?
Your shoes ain't buttoned, gal Don't fit you right.

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http://www.utexas.edu/cofa/music/erlmannseries/corrina.htm
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As you mention, Corrina Corrina goes back into the 19th century. Some of the great lyrics, that portray lyrical details so fine as to evoke a time and an indiscretion so wonderfully.

Corrina, Corrina, Where'd ya stay last night?
Corrina, Corrina, Where'd ya stay last night?
Your shoes ain't buttoned, gal Don't fit you right.

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Thanks, lostchords - lots of good reading and listening there.
 
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Re:Roots of Bob No. 6: Corinna & Alberta pt. 1 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
Here's a version of 'Alberta' (= Eric Clapton's adaptation of 'Corrina' by a group from Belgium:

THE SHADOOGIES - ALBERTA
Live @ Ruiselede Molenstappers Ruiselede Kermistocht 20 aug 2006
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSjvlIrX5KQ


Gutterball - Corrina, Corrina http://www.archive.org/details/gutter1993-10-14.flac16

(various live versions by Gutterball in archive.org)




(all this Corrina/Alberta/Roberta swapping gets very confusing! )<br><br>Post edited by: 4th Time Around, at: 2007/07/16 23:08
 
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Re:Roots of Bob No. 6: Corinna & Alberta pt. 1 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
lostchords wrote:
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recordings:
one zip folder incl 9 Corrinas and her sisters (Blind Lemon Jefferson, Jackson Blue Boys, Tampa Red, Mississippi Sheiks, Leroy Carr, Cliff Bruner, Bob Wills, Big Joe Turner)



Thanks a lot for that zip collection.

Interesting list of artists who have covered this song:
http://www.originals.be/eng/main.cfm?c=t_upd_show&amp;id=1117

Jackson Blue Boys (1928) as Sweet Alberta; same song, almost same personel: Bo Carter, Charlie McCoy and Walter Vincson, Tampa Red &amp; Georgia Tom (1929) , James 'Boodle It' Wiggins (1930) , Mississippi Sheiks (1930) as Alberta Blues; vocal: Lonnie Chatmon, brother of Bo; see also under Alberta, Charlie McCoy &amp; Bo Carter (1930s) as The Northern Starvers Are Returning Home, Red Nichols (1931) , Ashley &amp; Abernathy (1931) , Cab Calloway (1932) , Casa Loma Orch. (1934) , Milton Brown (1934) , Leo Soileau (1935) , Bing Crosby (1936) , Big Joe Turner (1940) , Bob Wills &amp; His Texas Playboys (1940) , Merrill E Moore (1952) , Chet Atkins (1954) , Pete Fountain (1955) , Johnny Carroll (1956) Texas rockabilly, Bill Haley &amp; The Comets (1958) , Jimmy Witherspoon (1959) , Collins Kids (1959) , Lightnin' Hopkins (1959) , Lonnie Donegan (1960) , Ray Peterson (1960) production: Phil Spector, Moon Mulligan (1960) , Snooks Eaglin (1961) , Bobby Vinton (1961) , Herman Van Keeken (1961) as Ik Hou Van Corina, Bob Dylan (1963) as Corrina Corrina; free interpretation (melody &amp; lyrics) with a verse from Robert Johnson's Stones In My Passway, Dean Martin (1963) , Mark Spoelstra (1963) , Mance Lipscomb (1964) , Mississippi John Hurt (1964) , Rising Sons (1965) with Taj Mahal, Jerry Lee Lewis (1965) , Muddy Waters (1966) , Merle Haggard (1970) , Steppenwolf (1970) , Marianne Faithful (1971) , Doc Watson (1974) , Del McCoury (1975) , Mickey Baker (1976) , Sleepy LaBeef (1978) , Black Sorrows (1984) , Terry Dolan's Acoustic Rangers (1987) , Joni Mitchell (1988) as A Bird That Whistles, Eric Clapton (1992) , Asleep At The Wheel (1993) , Ted Hawkins (1994) , Leo Kottke (1997) , Paul Weller (2004)

- some of the more recent versions should be interesting
 
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Re:Roots of Bob No. 6: Corinna & Alberta pt. 1 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
Ray Peterson - Corrina Corrina [1960] http://www.sendspace.com/file/p7uutf

- this was produced by 20-years old Phil Spector (one of his earliest efforts) and was a top 10 hit for Ray Peterson (among his other hits, 'Tell Laura I Love Her'. Ray Peterson died in 2005.


Bobby Vinton - Corrina Corrina [1961] http://www.sendspace.com/file/dfhyjc

- lots more early 60s versions, similar to this one (Pat Boone, Dion &amp; the Belmonts, etc.), which Bob must have been hearing on the radio


Dean Martin - Corrina Corrina [1963] http://www.sendspace.com/file/79fbpn

- Nice version - Dino makes everything sound good (not difficult in this case - it's a great song).<br><br>Post edited by: 4th Time Around, at: 2007/07/20 19:50
 
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